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Deb Plantagnet
Interviewd by LA Judge


This month's interview is with Vampire Church Associate, Deb Plantagnet. A fun loving down to earth lady, Deb discusses leaning what to call her vampirism at mid life, the exotic beauty of the redwoods, the trancey energy of belly dancing, how her writing just "happens" and oh yea.turning 50. Deb is one of those people with an infectious good nature. Spend any time with this lady and you will soon be enjoying life just a little bit more.

LA.: Greetings Deb - welcome glad to have you here.
Deb: Hi, lady! Nice to be here!
LA.: Ok - give me the quick version here.a few words about yourself please.
Deb: (but at my age, it's nice to be anywhere)
Deb: Oh geez......I'm mostly harmless?
You're right, that's a bald-faced lie...
LA.: Lol - and a fun loving lady.
Deb: Uhm, I'm gonna be 50 this Thursday, I have grown kids, and a grandson, and hey fellas! I"M SINGLE!

LA.: I have heard you say you live behind the Humboldt curtain. What the heck does that mean?
Deb: I live in the Redwoods, way up in the Northwest corner of California.
In Humboldt County. It rains a lot here, and there are 2 roads into the area. When it rains, when the winter storms really hit, those roads wash out sometimes, and we can be isolated completely.
LA.: That removed. Wow. How does that work for you? You seem to be a person that is fairly well balanced lady and connected to others.
Deb: Actually, I'm terribly shy.
LA.: Really? I never got that.
Deb: (I know hard to believe, but real world its true) I go tongue tied a lot in person. The quiet and peace are wonderful. And the trees!!! Gods, if you've never seen a redwood...they are something!
LA.: To me you seem like a person that is pretty in touch with all around you.
Deb: It's possible. I do love the countryside here. Big trees, lots of hills, the ocean, the cliffs, and all these rivers...sometimes I just get hit with the beauty here and get all teary. And if I need a city fix, there's always New Orleans.

LA.: So tell me about your vampirism. How was it that you became aware that the energy needs you were experiencing were called vampirism?
Deb: Well, I have long fangs, and sleep all day in a coffin. I can turn into a bat or mist, too!! No REEEEALLY! I even have my official cheesy satin cape!
Ah............I found the online real vampire community. It was stunning. I just sat there, reading this FAQ and thinking, "Oh, my GOD, that's ME!"
LA.: When was that?
Deb: I was about 45, 44...I dunno for sure.
LA.: How did you deal with that? Shock? Relief? Did it take an adjustment on your part or was it more of a comfortable fit?
Deb: And lo and behold! I found I was NOT ALONE! Oh, it was such a relief! I'd though I was dangerously mad for years! (Well, I still may be...but that's another subject.)
LA.: I take it then it was not really an awakening - but more of an affirmation of what you had been feeling all along?
Deb: Yes! I just couldn't believe it.....it was so........wonderful.
LA.: Sanguinary is a very difficult road for obtaining energy needs. Many have problems getting and keeping donors. How has that worked for you?
Deb: Since I was tiny, I've loved raw meat, blood, the taste of it...and I've been perennially lonesome.
Oh, it's rough. Especially up here in West Nowhere. I have to make do a lot with other sources and travel or depend on visitors, mostly. And it's really the only thing that works completely, the only one that stops up that hole all the way.
LA.: You do have other means of taking energy then?
Deb: Yes, sex is the second best...then comes stuff like concerts or performing, modeling...
LA.: That is the way it is for most with their primary energy source - it completes them the best.
Deb: Yes! I can get some off the sun, too, and curling up in a tree. Yeah..........tree energy is good stuff but nothing is like blood. Nothing.

LA.: Ah - you say performing...in doing my homework on you for this interview, I found an old dance site of yours. Belly dancing seems very fun - tell me about that.
Deb: hmm, I've been in love with it since I was 12 or so, when I saw a belly dancer on the news....I was just "OH! I wanna be like HER!" My parents about died and would have none of it. They put me in ballet, where I fell and crushed my ankle.
LA.: How is the energy from the dancing?
Deb: It's so good.......you ride the music.....it can be very trancey.
LA.: That seems very exotic.
Deb: You really can trance out, there are some trance dances in it even, and the crowd really gives good energy. To me it feels very natural. Most of the movements came fairly easily.
LA.: Cool. That must be an interesting Psi energy.
Deb: They are so enthralled with the whole thing...its theatre, too...because of the costumes and makeup and jewelry and the music...you try to make another world.
LA.: That is always the best - things that feel natural - how cool that you found your place there.
Deb: In many ways, it's a sacred space.
LA.: How so?
Deb: Well, you really do raise energy. The dancer(s) are in there in the center, directing it, calling it, shaping it, and the audience is sending it to them.
LA.: I can understand that - it has that as a ceremonial element from the movement and interaction.
Deb: Yes, very much so, as well as the trappings of it all (what an awful word, it sounds so disdainful). But it's very........life affirming.

LA.: So how was it you first became involved in the Vampire Church?
Deb: I found it via either a mention of it on another old list I was on or via a web search, I really can't remember. But I like the idea of a sanctuary, a safe space.
LA.: Either way - we are glad you are here.
Deb: Awww, gawrsh....yer gonna turn m' head!
LA.: I know like many in the VC you are involved in other online vamp groups... how does that compliment what you do here?
Deb: There's a lot of overlap of members, for one thing...it's a small world for a vampire, and the different groups all focus on different things.
LA.: That is true from what I have heard.
Deb: I think they compliment one another.
LA.: Any pros or cons?
Deb: Only when there's disagreements between the members of one with those of another, gee that makes me unhappy.
LA.: Totally understandable.
Deb: I hate being in the middle of that stuff ..it sucks.

LA.: You mentioned here - turning 50 in a few days.
Deb: Groan, yeah. And all the other vamps I meet, save you and Damien, are so much younger!!
LA.: Lol - I guess we do have our own little "old vamps" club. Any thoughts as you reach that milestone?
Deb: Half a century....it's weird, I'm so much the same person I was at 25, only more tolerant and open, more calm. But I look in the mirror and YIPE! I'm OLD!
LA.: Lol - I guess we do have our own little "old vamps" club.
Deb: Right, blood mush for our gummy old mouths. Eeeew!
LA.: Has your vampirism changing in any way?
Deb: It's less driving less commanding I think. Again, the calming and mellowing. And also KNOWING now what it is I'm dealing with has helped immensely.
LA.: How about the energy needs?
Deb: They are no less strong, but now I know what they are about, and how to deal with them better. No more self medicating with booze or drugs! Yay me!
LA.: You say knowing what you are dealing with... that must have been very confusing before.
Deb: Well, I was pretty sure I was psychotic.
LA.: How was it before you knew what you were affected by was vampirism? I am sure you still had the energy needs - how did you deal with that?
Deb: I was less able to deal with the depression, I felt not only isolated, but the need to stay isolated, since I thought I was a dangerous loon. I had reached the point where I was mostly a recluse.
LA.: Ouch - no wonder you felt like you had "come home" when you found an online group.
Deb: Finding out what was wrong helped me learn to deal with the world and people better.
LA.: That is very cool.
Deb: Yeah, I wasn't interested in drinking or drugs or whoring around anymore, I was married and had kids...so I had no way to feed. I didn't know at the time I was feeding...just thought I was crazy.

LA.: You have received several awards from the VC over the years for writing - tell me about that.
Deb: Uhm well, sometimes I sorta have a poem happen to me. I've written them since I was in high school.
LA.: Happen?
Deb: Blank verse usually. Yeah, I don't ever thing 'gee I'll write about that'. It's more I feel almost trancey, and I MUST write.
LA.: Ah - cool - that is a long time you have been writing.
Deb: Lately I've been pretty dry.
LA.: Do you consider that one of your passions?
Deb: No, more a........leak in my subconscious?
Deb: I don't know, it isn't a passion, more like almost channeling except I know it's me talking to myself.
LA.: A means of expression then I see - letting the inside out.
Deb: Yeah, it kinda bloops over the outside and grabs my pen.
LA.: Well I certainly enjoy what you write.
Deb: Thank you. Now if I could just learn to write when I'm happy.

LA.: I know that you are a mom to grown kids.
Deb: Yes.at least one isn't even mine.
LA.: .and that you give mom type advice here - funny how we do that.
Deb: Its part of the job, I think.
LA.: Yea I agree - it does see to come with the mom job.
LA.: So what piece of final mom advice would you give to folks here?
Deb: Hmmm.wow that's tough. Try to play nice, and if you get peeved with someone, take a nap??? It may go away later?
LA.: Lol - sounds like great advice to me Well thank you - it has been a pleasure.
Deb: Thank you, it wasn't at all scary! Yay! (where's the beer?)
LA.: .and I look forward to reading your posts on the e-list - thanks for keeping us fun Deb.
Deb: You're welcome, night lady! And thank you.

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